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I know not many of us are theater goers anymore. and some have never been.

But Iron Man? so worth it. Saw it on saturday in a DLP theater... whatever that means. Paid full price for two of us and i dont regret a cent of it.

I doubted downy jr for the longest time. I retract anything negative I may have said about him in the role and offer myself up for caning if that is necessary.

and aside to Berin---- let me know when you've seen the movie and who Obediah Stane (jeff bridges) reminds you of. the resemblance was uncanny with certain expressions during the movie. i had to laugh.

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Still haven't seen it but Robert Downey Jr. seemed like a no-brainer to me. They got a rich famous substance abuser to play a rich famous substance abuser. If Downey ever dressed up as a carboard and tinfoil robot as a kid then what more could you ask for?

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That's Robert Downey Jr? I thought it was Al Pacino.

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So...in the comic, does Tony Stark have a father? :)

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Yes, and in the movie, too.

You really need to see this movie.

AFTER you see Buckaroo Banzai.

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The sequence is important. Only if you see them in order will you understand.

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I'm watching Iron Man now since I was forbidden to see it until I saw Buckaroo Banzai.

Tony Stark is a cocky, narcissistic, over-privileged douchbag. I hate cocky, narcissistic, over-privileged douchebags. I want to have Tony Stark's manbabies. I think there's a contradiction in there somewhere.

"I was doing a piece for Vanity Fair." You don't get double-entendres like that anymore. At best you get single entendres, if you're lucky. And this is a Marvel movie! Spiderman had some cinderblock clunkers in the double entendre department. Ditto Fantastic Four.

More when it's over.

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Wow. That was a lot of fun. It's pointless to argue about the best comic book movie ever but I'll say this: I've never seen a comic book movie that required less suspension of disbelief, that insulted my intelligence less, or that felt more real, than Iron Man. Robert Downey's Tony Stark is so comfortably familiar with the highest tech that money can buy that he absolutely makes me believe in it, so much so that I wouldn't even call this sci-fi. Techno-thriller, maybe.

I love how his origin story is so integral to the plot. It didn't feel like something obligatory and tedious, like eating your vegetables before you can have dessert. And Tony Stark was 9/10ths superhero even before becoming Iron Man. It was less of an origin and more like Batman finally realizing, "Oh yeah. Bats are scary."

Everyone was great. Robert Downey Jr. owns Tony Stark now. Jeff Bridges is just perfect and never felt generically Villainous (though the "I Built This Company From the Ground Up" speech is getting as played out as the "We Are Not So Different, You and I" speech), and everyone's relationships just felt good. The way the relationships between the crew on the original Star Trek felt good. Like there's history there.

Would it be foam-at-the-mouth fannish to say this might actually deserve some awards? At least for the writing, but I could see a Best Actor Golden Globe. No Oscars though. Unless a genre flick nets a billion it's not likely, and at $186 million (2/3 the budget of the LotR trilogy? What the hell, people?) Iron Man's got to climb out of a big hole to earn "legitimacy".

Good stuff! It almost starts to make up for Spiderman 3.

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Nothing will make up for EmoHairLoungeLizardSpidey. Some things, once seen, can not be unseen.

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Not to justify EmoHairLoungeLizardSpidey, but they were trying to cram a whole year's worth of character developement into 5 minutes of screen time.

Spidey's alien symbiant costume should've been introduced in 3 and then come off at the end of the movie, paving the way for Venom to be the main villian of 4.

*sigh* but then I'm comic nerd and not a highly paid Hollywood writer

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Oh, I get the whole compression of story thing. I just think that the treatment of the changes in the character sucked. Of all the choices that the director could have taken to show Peter becoming a jerk, they went with disco?

What I'm critiquing here is the way-over-the-top-of-it, not the fact of it.

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Just to settle a bet with myself: is the title of this thread a Black Sabbath reference or do I totally not get it?

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